"NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE FORBIDS TITHES EVER" SOMEONE CLAIMS
His exact statement is as follows...
"The Bible is very clear that tithes belong to the Lord, right on the Old Testament. After that there is no verse in the Bible that forbids tithes ever, Old and New Testament."
ANSWER...
He is correct; nothing actually "forbids tithing" in the New Testament because nothing commands tithing in the New Testament in the first place. Those EXACT WORDS; "I, GOD, FORBID TITHING" won't be found in the New Testament, they don't have to be.
God has no need to "forbid tithing" in the New Testament because...
1. God never commanded Gentiles (non Jews) to tithe in the first place. Only the Nation of Israel were commanded to pay tithes, and it was a NATIONAL REQUIREMENT, not an individual requirement. The tithe came from farms and ranches of the promise land of Israel, from agricultural increase only, not from anyone's personal income.
2. God does not have to "forbid tithing," but God did clearly put an end to tithing. Since He put an end to tithing, that is the same as "forbidding tithing" simply because why would you want to be involved in something God has put an end to? If you are wise, you don't want to be involved.
3. Neither does the Old Testament command tithing except to the Nation of Israel, NOT TO THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH. Nothing forbids you from giving every dime you have to a church either; but would it be wise to do so? No, it would not. You can't out give God, we are often told. True, but you can give foolishly;
Proverbs 22:16 - "Whoever oppresses the poor to increase his own wealth, or gives to the rich, will only come to poverty."
4. Would it be wise to continue something, tithing, God has ended in the New Covenant? No, in fact it wouldn't be, not at all. God ended tithing; why continue it? Only a fool would continue doing something God has ended. ONLY A FOOL WOULD NEED GOD TO FORBID HIM TO DO SOMETHING GOD HAS CERTAINLY PUT AN END TO. We must be wiser than that!
Also, you won't find anything in the New Testament that actually FORBIDS the sacrificing of animals for sin, but again, the New Testament does not require such an activity to be done because Jesus is our FINAL sacrifice for sin (see; Hebrews chapter 10).
5. He is making a foolish claim and preaching from silence because of his lack of knowledge of the New Covenant. Again; No, God does not actually "forbid tithing" because there is no need to forbid what has clearly been ended. A wise person will simply NOT get involved in something God has ended.
6. TITHING IS NOT LITERATELY "FORBIDDEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT," BUT IT IS ENDED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT...
The New Testament DOES IN FACT PUT AN END TO TITHING;
HEBREWS CHAPTER SEVEN...
What is DISANNULLED? What is WEAK? What is UNPROFITABLE? These three...
1. The Levitical Priesthood (which could bring perfection [salvation] TO NO ONE, Hebrews 7:11).
2. The Law of Moses relative to New Testament Christians who are NOT UNDER THE LAW (Romans 6:14, Acts 15:24).
3. Tithing, which is of the law of Moses (Hebrews 7:5, Numbers 18:21-24, Matthew 23:23).
In Hebrews Chapter Seven tithing is mentioned 7 times, verses number; 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 9 again, focusing CLEARLY ON TITHING, and while proving the superiority of Christ's priesthood, ALSO places tithing (along with the rest of the law of Moses) in a position of INFERIORITY and declares...
ALL THREE ARE WEAK, ALL THREE ARE UNPROFITABLE, AND ALL THREE ARE DISANNULLED (CANCELED)...INCLUDING TITHING.
"For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof." - Hebrews 7:18
>>> ALSO; a previous post of mine from another group...
ANSWERING EMPTY QUESTIONS
"Is it a sin to tithe?" "Will a person go to hell if they tithe?" "Where does the Bible tell us to stop tithing."
You people who ask and post such phrases and questions trying to prove that a Christian must tithe; is that the best you can do? Is that the extent of your argument in favor of "Christian tithing?" Can't you do better in your quest to tell us all about how a Christian is required to hand over ten percent of their monetary income, income money, to a pastor, other minister or a church? Obviously you can't or you would be.
In reality you are NOT asking a legitimate honest question of which you are seeking an honest answer for, you are asking your question THINKING you have asked a question we cannot answer, and by not being able to answer, you have "proven" that a Christian must tithe. Sadly, you are deeply mistaken.
So, here are your answers...
>> "Is it a sin to tithe?"
YES, if you are NOT tithing in obedience to God's word. In God's word there exists NOT ONE VERSE instructing anyone to tithe money to any church, pastor or any minister, not in the Old or New Testament. Such a command from God simply does not exist anywhere in the Bible. If you think it does, feel free to show us. Tithing money is in fact a sin because money from income is NOT how God describes the tithe. God describes the tithe, NOT MEN. God's tithe consists of fruits, vegetables and clean animals from the Promise Land, the tithe was agricultural in composition, never monetary. There is no such thing as tithing money in God's word. Again; if you believe there is, feel free to show us the scripture verse to prove your claim.
Therefore; what is sin? THIS... 1 John 3:4 - "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." So, YES, it is a sin to tithe if you are NOT tithing God's way, and you who are "tithing money" are NOT doing it God's way, you are doing it MAN'S WAY...
Matthew 15:6 - He need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your tradition you have made void the word of God."
>> "Will a person go to hell if they tithe?"
NO, but you won't go to hell for being robbed, either, or necessarily for being ignorant. Whether or not a person will end up in hell has nothing to do with whether you should tithe or not. You won't end up in hell for building an Ark such as Noah built, even though it's unlikely that God has told you to build one. If you are a genuine Christian who has believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, you won't end up in hell for sacrificing bulls and of goats for your sins, even though doing so is worthless and cannot add to your salvation or forgiveness of sins. Hebrews 10:4 - "For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins."
>> "Where does the Bible tell us to stop tithing."
Where did the Bible tell us to START tithing? And, who is "us?" Who must continue to tithe? God called, by divine command, the Nation of Israel to tithe under the Law of Moses, and the Levites to take the tithe; the Church is not the Nation of Israel under the Law of Moses and New Testament Christians have no instructions to "continue tithing" to anyone. Also, God NEVER instructed Gentiles to tithe...
"He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel." Psalm 147:20 - "He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the Lord." - Psalm 147:19-20
As noted many times before; In the New Testament no Apostle ever instructed tithing, asked for a tithe, rebuked any person or church for not tithing, or received a tithe. Not one of them. The early church seen in the Book of Acts NEVER tithed. We have NO record of them doing so. In fact, The Book of Acts records this...
"Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave NO such commandment:" - Acts 15:24
If tithing was required and taught in the New Testament for Christians, it would have to be clearly detailed and outlined in the terms and conditions of the New Testament like all promises and commands of the New Testament are. Tithing instructions would be clearly included in the New Testament, there are NO SUCH INSTRUCTIONS TO BE FOUND. No such terms, conditions or details are outlined anywhere in the New Testament. Tithing was never, is not now, and will never be part of the New Testament. The New Testament KNOWS NOTHING OF ANY COMMAND FOR A BELIEVER TO TITHE.
CONCLUSION;
Before posting foolish questions thinking you have asked a question that can't be answered, or proves that a Christian should tithe, think again. You might be only making a fool of yourself and accomplishing nothing.
TAKE SOME ADVICE...
>> Proverbs 10:28...
"The wise man is glad to be instructed, but a self-sufficient fool falls flat on his face."
>> Proverbs 15:32...
"Whoever ignores instruction despises himself, but he who listens to reproof gains intelligence."
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